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Post  Final Warrior on Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:17 am

The lack of tsuba and/or habaki, plus the flushness of the blade with the tsuka would make that katana wildly impractical for use. It'd also be nearly impossible to (or at least, utterly impossible to properly) perform koiguchi no kirikata.

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Re: Uncle Vanya's lineart crap

Post  UncleVanya on Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:39 am

Its like a cross-breed between a katana and a cossack shashka, also I was lazy, and more concentrated on the armor.
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Re: Uncle Vanya's lineart crap

Post  Final Warrior on Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:40 am

Take into account the curvature of the shashka's hilt and its pommel design, then - those provide for the draw. Of course, at that point, it might as well as just be a longer, more cumbersome shashka.

I still don't see any sane katana techniques being applied with this weapon, though - the katana and the sabre (esp. the cavalry sabre) have very different applications.

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Re: Uncle Vanya's lineart crap

Post  UncleVanya on Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:09 pm

Final Warrior wrote:Take into account the curvature of the shashka's hilt and its pommel design, then - those provide for the draw. Of course, at that point, it might as well as just be a longer, more cumbersome shashka.

I still don't see any sane katana techniques being applied with this weapon, though - the katana and the sabre (esp. the cavalry sabre) have very different applications.

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As I said, I didn't go that deep into it, it was just a quick drawing to compliment the armor. But since we're getting into this, shashka isn't your typical saber either, unlike other european sabers, shashka evolved from knives, not swords. And all weapons have the same application, as in, killing people.
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Post  Final Warrior on Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:43 pm

UncleVanya wrote:And all weapons have the same application, as in, killing people.

/facepalm

First off, that statement is patently wrong. Weapons aren't used for killing people, they're used for killing.

Second off, That's like equivocating a Beretta F92 with a Barret M82A2. Yes, they're both used in killing, but their applications are entirely different. I wouldn't deploy a handgun for a mile-long shot and I wouldn't deploy an antimateriel rifle as a close-quarters backup.

"Application" as in "method of use", not "raison d'ĂȘtre".

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Re: Uncle Vanya's lineart crap

Post  UncleVanya on Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:17 pm

Final Warrior wrote:
UncleVanya wrote:And all weapons have the same application, as in, killing people.

/facepalm

First off, that statement is patently wrong. Weapons aren't used for killing people, they're used for killing.

Second off, That's like equivocating a Beretta F92 with a Barret M82A2. Yes, they're both used in killing, but their applications are entirely different. I wouldn't deploy a handgun for a mile-long shot and I wouldn't deploy an antimateriel rifle as a close-quarters backup.

"Application" as in "method of use", not "raison d'ĂȘtre".

Show me a man using a katana on horseback and I'll show you either a weaponmaster and a genius, or an idiot who has never been properly trained.

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I can show you a man who used shashka on foot, if that helps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdhlFyC70bs&feature=related

and a woman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAxEeZ1M1DM

starts out with a nagaika, but there is shashka in there after a few seconds.

Point being that you can use a beretta and a TT pistol at close quarters to similar results.
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Post  Final Warrior on Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:27 am

My example was WRT a katana on horseback, not a shashka on foot. Sabres were designed with idea that, at some point, the wielder was not going to be on their horse; not so much the katana.

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Post  Dragonis on Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:45 am

Final Warrior wrote:My example was WRT a katana on horseback, not a shashka on foot. Sabres were designed with idea that, at some point, the wielder was not going to be on their horse; not so much the katana.

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Well the katana was made for dueling. The yari was much more commonly wielded in a battle involving cavalry.

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Post  Final Warrior on Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:30 am

Yup.

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Post  Kraven Shadow on Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:15 pm

Ok seriously, all the guy did was post some line art. And all you guys can do is nit pick and pull it apart.

Shouldn't your energy be best used in, I don't know.....Posting in your respective threads instead of trying to prove who knows more about swords than the other.

On top of that, it turned from him sharing his line art, to you hijacking his thread about your supposed "knowledge" in weaponry....

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Re: Uncle Vanya's lineart crap

Post  UncleVanya on Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:49 pm

Don't worry, it was just a friendly argument, plus its over.
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Re: Uncle Vanya's lineart crap

Post  Final Warrior on Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:31 pm

Kraven Shadow wrote:Ok seriously, all the guy did was post some line art. And all you guys can do is nit pick and pull it apart.
If you don't want your art to get criticized, keep it to yourself. Further: criticism should lead to the artist considering the criticism and improving themselves based on it (assuming the criticism is any good).

Also, in case you didn't see the debate UncleVanya and I had re: whether or not Dragon Age Origins had a sensible, good plot (you may not have joined the forums when it happened, I don't remember)... well, our friendly debates get a lot more intense than this. (I haven't even sworn once. Yet.)

Kraven Shadow wrote:Shouldn't your energy be best used in, I don't know.....Posting in your respective threads instead of trying to prove who knows more about swords than the other.
I've already posted in my one thread.

Kraven Shadow wrote:On top of that, it turned from him sharing his line art, to you hijacking his thread about your supposed "knowledge" in weaponry....
Nah brah nah, I pointed out an issue with one of his weapons using the respective terminology for the weapon. If you think that's an e-peen contest... well, okay, you're allowed to think what you want.

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Post  UncleVanya on Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:56 pm

Okay, now the thread is getting a bit derailed. Lets either talk about things related to the artwork, or not talk.
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Post  Serethiel on Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:42 am

(I haven't even sworn once. Yet.)

And we all admire your powers of self-restraint.


As for the art, did you say you do these in paint? God, I can't draw a stick figure in paint . . .

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Post  Calliara on Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:59 am

Please Kraven, it's the admin's duty to lecture people in the forum, not yours. Let the children play

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Re: Uncle Vanya's lineart crap

Post  UncleVanya on Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:32 pm



Wanted to make something more complex and detailed but for some reason this simplistic version just ended up looking the coolest. Its an emblem for a certain organization that I'm at this point planning to start in our DA RP.
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Post  UncleVanya on Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:05 pm

Volk's dagger



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Post  Final Warrior on Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:37 am

That's no dagger, that's a damn meat cleaver.

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PS. It helps to have a scale. I thought that was a reaver daiklave at first...

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Post  UncleVanya on Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:10 pm

Volk's longsword.


A scale would be nice but it'd add to stuff I would need to do, and Im lazy. Use your imagination.


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Post  Devin on Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:14 pm

The fact that he said it was a dagger clued me into its size, lol. These are awesome, and your latest is my favourite. On a random note, where did you get your faces -- aside from the latest two, as I can tell those are from The Witcher.

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Post  UncleVanya on Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:32 pm

Made them in Fallout 3 (which is the only game with a face creator I have for PC atm) and took a screenshot.
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Post  Final Warrior on Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:34 pm

EVE Online has an awesome character creator now. I advocate just grabbing a 14-day free trial and making an asston of faces/characters.

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Post  Kiverius Lupus on Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:51 pm

I'll look into it, thx.

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Post  UncleVanya on Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:17 pm



Kiverius's daggers.
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Post  UncleVanya on Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:30 pm

Tiberius's sword (Tiberius's character sheet coming up):



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